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« on: December 10, 2009, 10:05:34 AM »

mga bai if you're training daily, pila na lang ka hours inyo tulog?
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 10:07:49 AM »

ako training dili daily pero pinakataas nako katulog 4 hrs  Cry
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 11:57:53 AM »

ako training lately kay once or twice ra gyod in a week mao nang suicide gyod ning 42km karon jan10. somewhat dili rdy pero sige lang slowly but surely. mo pace ko sa mga 5.5-6hrs na runners
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 01:07:21 PM »

ako training dili daily pero pinakataas nako katulog 4 hrs  Cry

mao ba? kyawa nimo bai oi. ako 3 times a week ra mn sd ko modagan, but 6 hrs sd ako 2log.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2009, 01:08:03 PM »

ako training lately kay once or twice ra gyod in a week mao nang suicide gyod ning 42km karon jan10. somewhat dili rdy pero sige lang slowly but surely. mo pace ko sa mga 5.5-6hrs na runners

pila ra gud ka hours imo tulog kung modagan ka ing ka buntag bai?
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 01:11:20 PM »

nangutana ko ani bai kay nakuawan ko sa gi email sa ako amiga about lack of sleep. mao ni ang content sa email (taas sya but worth reading)

What killed Ranjan Das (CEO of SAP labs) and Lessons for Corporate India
Dec.02, 2009 in Stress Management, Useful informations, self improvement

A month ago, many of us heard about the sad demise of Ranjan Das from
Bandra, Mumbai. Ranjan, just 42 years of age, was the CEO of SAP-Indian
Subcontinent, the youngest CEO of an MNC in India . He was very active in
sports, was a fitness freak and a marathon runner. It was common to see him
run on Bandra’s Carter Road . Just after Diwali, on 21st Oct, he returned
home from his gym after a workout, collapsed with a massive heart attack and
died. He is survived by his wife and two very young kids.

It was certainly a wake-up call for corporate India . However, it was even
more disastrous for runners amongst us. Since Ranjan was an avid marathoner
(in Feb 09, he ran Chennai Marathon at the same time some of us were running
Pondicherry Marathon 180 km away), the question came as to why an
exceptionally active, athletic person succumb to heart attack at 42 years of
age.

Was it the stress?
A couple of you called me asking about the reasons. While Ranjan had
mentioned that he faced a lot of stress, that is a common element in most of
our lives. We used to think that by being fit, one can conquer the bad
effects of stress. So I doubted if the cause was stress.

The Real Reason
However, everyone missed out a small line in the reports that Ranjan used to
make do with 4-5 hours of sleep. This is an earlier interview of Ranjan on
NDTV in the program ‘Boss’ Day Out’:
http://connect.in.com/ranjan-das/play-video-boss-day-out-ranjan-das-of-sap-india\
-229111-807ecfcf1ad966036c289b3ba6c376f2530d7484.html
Here he himself admits that he would love to get more sleep (and that he was
not proud of his ability to manage without sleep, contrary to what others
extolled).

The Evidence
Last week, I was working with a well-known cardiologist on the subject of
‘Heart Disease caused by Lack of Sleep’. While I cannot share the video nor
the slides because of confidentiality reasons, I have distilled the key
points below in the hope it will save some of our lives.

Some Excerpts:

• Short sleep duration (<5 or 5-6 hours) increased risk for high BP
by 350% to 500% compared to those who slept longer than 6 hours per night.
Paper published in 2009.
As you know, high BP kills.

• Young people (25-49 years of age) are twice as likely to get high
BP if they sleep less. Paper published in 2006.

• Individuals who slept less than 5 hours a night had a 3-fold
increased risk of heart attacks. Paper published in 1999.

• Complete and partial lack of sleep increased the blood
concentrations of High sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hs-cRP), the
strongest predictor of heart attacks. Even after getting adequate sleep
later, the levels stayed high!!

• Just one night of sleep loss increases very toxic substances in
body such as Interleukin-6 (IL-6), Tumour Necrosis Factor-Alpha (TNF-alpha)
and C-reactive protein (cRP). They increase risks of many medical
conditions, including cancer, arthritis andheart disease. Paper published in
2004.

• Sleeping for <=5 hours per night leads to 39% increase in heart
disease. Sleeping for <=6 hours per night leads to 18% increase in heart
disease. Paper published in 2006.

Ideal Sleep
For lack of space, I cannot explain here the ideal sleep architecture. But
in brief, sleep is composed of two stages: REM (Rapid Eye Movement) and
non-REM. The former helps in mental consolidation while the latter helps in
physical repair and rebuilding. During the night, you alternate between REM
and non-REM stages 4-5 times.

The earlier part of sleep is mostly non-REM. During that period, your
pituitary gland releases growth hormones that repair your body. The latter
part of sleep is more and more REM type.

For you to be mentally alert during the day, the latter part of sleep is
more important. No wonder when you wake up with an alarm clock after 5-6
hours of sleep, you are mentally irritable throughout the day (lack of REM
sleep). And if you have slept for less than 5 hours, your body is in a
complete physical mess (lack of non-REM sleep), you are tired throughout the
day, moving like a zombie and your immunity is way down (I’ve been there,
done that ☹ )

Finally, as long-distance runners, you need an hour of extra sleep to repair
the running related damage.

In conclusion:
Barring stress control, Ranjan Das did everything right: eating proper food,
exercising (marathoning!), maintaining proper weight. But he missed getting
proper and adequate sleep, minimum 7 hours. In my opinion, that killed him.

If you are not getting enough sleep (7 hours), you are playing with fire,
even if you have low stress.
I always took pride in my ability to work 50 hours at a stretch whenever the
situation warranted. But I was so spooked after seeing the scientific
evidence last week that since Saturday night, I ensure I do not even set the
alarm clock under 7 hours. Now, that is a nice excuse to get some more
sleep. ☺
Unfortunately, Ranjan Das is not alone when it comes to missing sleep. Many
of us are doing exactly the same, perhaps out of ignorance. Please forward
this mail to as many of your colleagues as possible, especially those who
might be short-changing their sleep. If we can save even one young life
because of this email, I would be the happiest person on earth.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 05:08:04 PM »

ako training lately kay once or twice ra gyod in a week mao nang suicide gyod ning 42km karon jan10. somewhat dili rdy pero sige lang slowly but surely. mo pace ko sa mga 5.5-6hrs na runners

pasuyop lang ko nimo boss chono.. hehehe..  suicide pod ni ako-a wala jud ko kadagan.. nya nagsakit pod ako left na tiil.. somewhere sa kilid.. tungod tingali ni sa decline sa road kung mag run ka sa kilid..
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 05:09:45 PM »

mga bai if you're training daily, pila na lang ka hours inyo tulog?

i make sure bai na 7-8 hours ako tulog daily.. pero kung sobra ka kapoy jud mo sleep ko additional hours inig hapon sa weekend after a long hard work.. especially after long runs and long rides..
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 05:11:51 PM »

mga bai if you're training daily, pila na lang ka hours inyo tulog?

i make sure bai na 7-8 hours ako tulog daily.. pero kung sobra ka kapoy jud mo sleep ko additional hours inig hapon sa weekend after a long hard work.. especially after long runs and long rides..


usahay magduka ko sa work paets
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 09:38:43 PM »

ngutan.a c juntan kay anad na ug y tuug tuug na dagan..dagan man xa ug hung.over..samot kung wala ug tuug! hek3
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 10:40:46 PM »

hahahahhahaahah...

i run 3 races na nga less than 2 hours ra ang tolog tongod sa tagay
na nimahu pa kong red horse sa starting line.. Grin

my training is usually in the evening kay late sleeper/insomiac jud kaaju ko..
train ko twice sa weekdays
then sa sabado nako mag early morning dagan kay whole day puydi ra matolog..
usually sleep ko between 1 and 2 am... so demalas kaayu if naay skidyul run sa buntag.

i have read that article na sad..
my  opinion lang jud is .. ang cardiac arrest or mga heart diseases are also hereditary.
so kung inyu kaliwat in ana.. bisan unsaun pa nimu exercise and diet... kung kuhaun na jud ta.
bye bye na jud...
what i mean is , exercising or healthy living is not an assurance that we can avoid or escape heart attacks.

bahala na mga doc runners diri mu post unta diri.. para pud naa unta professional opinion. hek hek hek

mao kami ni boy p.. enjoy na lang sa life... wa ta kabawo kanus a ta mag marathon padolong sa heaven. Grin
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2009, 05:52:56 AM »

yohooo duha nata bro! kinsa pa lain?

ako training lately kay once or twice ra gyod in a week mao nang suicide gyod ning 42km karon jan10. somewhat dili rdy pero sige lang slowly but surely. mo pace ko sa mga 5.5-6hrs na runners

pasuyop lang ko nimo boss chono.. hehehe..  suicide pod ni ako-a wala jud ko kadagan.. nya nagsakit pod ako left na tiil.. somewhere sa kilid.. tungod tingali ni sa decline sa road kung mag run ka sa kilid..
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2009, 05:55:55 AM »

@vard: Tnx, i'm glad this article is circulating. This is an eye opener to all whether you are an athlete or not. Sleep is very important. Mao ni isa sa akong mga struggle... sleeping time. importanti kaayo basta athlete. I'll include this sa ako new years resolution...
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2009, 09:19:45 AM »

ang ka2g mn gud ang pirmi ma sacrifice nga time, we work ing ka buntag nya naa mga events ing ka gabii so gmay na lng time for ka2g kay magtrain nman sd early morning. so ing wala gni ko run ing ka buntag mao ra gud na nga time mka2g ug taas-taas.
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2009, 12:07:13 PM »

ako perme kuwang tog,, basta fun run ky taga dagan nko kuwang tog perme,, 4hrs pinaka taas... patay nako ani maduagy guro...ayaw tawn mutan-aw pako sa ako liwat
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